Dear fellow Malaysians,
Not many of you might be aware of the recent attempts by Mr.Waytha Moorthy, the Chairman of the banned Hindu Rights Action Force or HINDRAF as it is called to try and stir up another racial unrest amongst the citizens of this nation namely the people of Kamunting, Taiping, Perak through his call to the Malaysian Indians to rise up against the local Malays who are said to be from the 'underworld' there following what he claims to be a racist attack against the Indians of Kamunting on June the 8th, 2009.
I reproduce herewith the exact words of HINDRAF's Chairman, Mr.Waytha Moorthy for your attention.
HINDRAF : KAMUNTING RESIDENTS FACING THREAT OF RACIAL VIOLENCE FROM THE UNDERWORLD “3LINE” AND “MAT REMPIT” GANG
HINDRAF have obtained reliable information from members of the public including sympathisers from the Malay Community that the underworld “3 Line and Mat Rempit ” gang are mobilising a large number of superbikers into Kamunting on Saturday, June 13, 2009 to “teach” the Indians a lesson as a result of the racial clash that sparked on June 8, 2009.
HINDRAF wishes to stress that we do not condone to any form of violence let it be from the Indians, Malays or any race for the matter.
The racial attacks in Kamunting on June 8, 2009 and the ongoing unrelated, unprovoked attacks on innocent Malaysian Indians in Kamunting are being perpetrated by outsiders in gangs of superbikes believed to be members of the underworld Malay “3 Line and Mat Rempit” gangs.
Over the last 2 days Indians in groups (in Kamunting) of more than 3 are told to disperse by the police or face arrest but they seem to deliberately ignore the large groups of the underworld superbikers who are patrolling and intimidating the Malaysian Indian folks in Kamunting.
A Hindu Temple namely the Madurai Veeran Temple in Batu 4, Kamunting was also torched by members of these underworld and Police is yet to investigate the report lodged by members of the said Temple.
The impartiality of the Royal Malaysian Police Force is questionable as they are fully aware of these gangs’ activities in arousing racial clashes in Kamunting and it appears that they are colluding with these gangsters in continuing their activities for motives only known to them.
HINDRAF calls upon the IGP to act in accordance to the oath he had taken in providing protection to all citizens of the country and prevent Kamunting from turning into another Kg. Medan massacre that took place from 8/3/2001 to 23/3/2001 (15 days in a row without any interference from the Police Force to restore law and order) where hundreds were seriously injured and 6 lives were lost.
We call upon the IGP to take a pragmatic and realistic approach particularly in mobilizing his men on 13th June 2009 to prevent any untoward incident planned by the underworld gangs which could lead to unnecessary cost to innocent lives.
There has to be more patrols and protection to the people of Kamunting and those culprits who have been attacking innocent people over the last four days must be arrested immediately and charged in Court, failing which the confidence of the people in the Royal Malaysian Police Force would be eroded further.
P. Waytha Moorthy.
HINDRAF – Chairman
Now, if what Mr.Waytha Moorthy has claimed to have taken place is true, I am pretty sure that the mainstream media would have published the related news through their media channels and the whole incident would surely have been reported by our Malaysian bloggers network without fail?
I have also come across counter responses by concerned Malaysian Indians who deny the said happenings as being nothing more than mere exaggerations on Mr.Waytha Moorthy's part and have advised him to please be more careful when posting such unfounded allegations in the Malaysian online groups and forums for such a serious allegation might just spark off a nasty unnecessary confrontation between the masses here in our multi ethnic. multi faithed nation.
I sincerely appreciate the presence and courage of such rational fellow Malaysians here amongst the Indian Community of Malaysia and thank them for their maturity and patriotism for nipping these instigation's in the bud, so to speak.
Here are a series of responses that I am reproducing here for the sake of our mutual contemplation as to the actual situation about the matter.
I will just publish the content of the response without disclosing the details of the forumers for their security's sake. I am publishing them exactly as they appear in the online forum leaving out the names and emails of the participants.
Please get the facts right before making such statements . The whole incident was started by 4 Indian guys . All the people in Kamunting know about it . A person sitting somewhere in overseas should not make statements like this without properly investigating the incident . Hindraf should stop creating hatred among the Indians .2nd response:
I just do not understand from where you got this source on Kamunting issue. I'm from Kamunting and when all the incident happens I was still there. I know what actually happened, who and why?
What is there that has to do with what you say as 'HINDRAF have obtained reliable information from members of the public including sympathizers from the Malay Community that the underworld “3 Line and Mat Rempit ” gang are mobilizing a large number of superbikers into Kamunting on Saturday, June 13, 2009 to “teach” the Indians a lesson as a result of the racial clash that sparked on June 8, 2009.'?
There is nothing racial there, no Malaysian Tamil died due to the issue above or no Malays died and no clashes happened as you mention.
Who is the reliable Hindraf members who had given you the information? Did you see anything personally?? Any proof?
We are all staying in Kamunting and my family staying there for 3 generations and we are staying in Malay area for almost 36 years where we do not have any racial clashes as you mention.
Every one is going to work and daily activity per normal.
Do you know that among the 40 houses there we are the only Tamil family, 3 Chinese families and the rest are Malays.
What racial clashes are you talking about??
I agree there is gang fights among the youth but not due to racial basically with actions and words.
The youths I mean not only Malaysian Tamils but Malay youth too. Every Kamunting resident knew this.
Why should you call upon IGP to take a pragmatic and realistic approach where you, yourself have not spoke to him for the actual picture?
People of Kamunting Malaysian Tamils and the Malays understand all the details happen during that days.
Please DO NOT MISLEAD the PUBLIC over the net and create another unproductive
Please do not make this another page where we do not want the Malaysian Tamils to be treated like the Sri Lanka Tamils due to some misleads.
Be reasonable, Sir!
Find out the root cause, get precise details, do some post mortem over the incidents happen. Guide and change the youths who are involve and get them be a value add citizen but do not misguide the public for something which did not take place.
The funny thing is your Hindraf member did not say how many Malaysian Tamil youth and Malay youth were caught and in Taiping and Kamunting lock up?
How many youths had out patient treatment?? How many are still in hospital?? What was their actions and why?
IGP had spoken to the public of Kamunting, how come your member did not inform you that??
Please do not start another book with new chapter in the name of Kamunting.
3rd response :
Dear @@@@@@ ,
Hat off to you . I wish I could have written better . It is good to hear from a person whose is exactly staying in Kamunting area .
The President of Hindraf has finally shown his true color . It also begin to show his lack of leadership . His own coordinators began to split up and went on their way to form their own party .
It is sad to see he too began to take the common course of common leaders taking opportunity of petty issues to play the racial card . I am beginning to have doubts about his sincere intentions to help the Indians .
Last I remember was Uthaya was saying that he had drawn out some plans to present to the prime minister and so on and till today there seems to be no news.
Anyway to me Hindraf has chartered its course to its own destruction the very moment the team began to split .
The so called the Hindraf leaders have slowly began to vanish into thin air . The current one has already began to show his own weakness in his judgment and clearly indicates he has no vision.
Whatever it maybe , I hope in future Hindraf should change its ways to improve its service to the community and not make use of this kind of opportunity to get themselves recognized .
Kindly try to refrain from sending provocative emails which further aggravates the public anger . Many have families there and are worried about their well being.
As a community leader , one should be more responsible and sensible in making statements to the public .
I am still very surprised as to why Waytha Murthy has not even bothered to answer all the questions imposed to him?
4th Follow up response from same forumer above :
HINDRAF CHAIRMAN P.Waytha Morthy as an educated man and as a responsible man who cares about the Indian society has to be careful with the statement he makes.
One should think and analyze first on why Malays would suddenly turn violent and start attacking all the Indians.
Your statement sounds like as if the Malays have no other work and they have suddenly gone crazy and they decided to attack the Indians . Your statements also instigates Indians to retaliate.
First of all your reliable information is not reliable at all .
What do you mean by racial attacks in Kamunting and the ongoing unrelated , unprovoked attacks on innocent Malaysian Indians.
The whole provocation was started by a bunch of Indians who sold drugs . Some things went wrong when the attacked the wrong guy and fight broke . They used this event to turn it into a racial issue by sending sms to others and the whole thing broke out of proportion.
Many effort was taken to keep the matters under control so that this issue does not spread like a fire and cause racial crisis . Efforts was taken to control both sides and to try to solve the issue amicably .
Your statement is a disgrace . You try to use this issue to make Hindraf look popular again. After you brother's famous gangrene leg which by god's blessing suddenly turned out to be well after being forcibly thrown out of ISA camp .
Your move brought the Indians together and aware of their rights but you have further created few monsters who took the opportunity to make money in the name of HINDRAF and further divided the community by forming their own parties.
Everyone one of your coordinators are suddenly the champions of the indians and are on the move to form their own party .
I looked highly upon you as my hero once upon a time . Soon I realize that you are a leader with a hidden agenda . You are a leader who as no vision for the future of the community . Your aim is to take out you frustration on the government and our community have to pay the price .
There many individual heroes in this society who have contributed immensely to the society . They are a lot better of then you are.
Men like you with evil in heart will soon fall and be disgraced.
5th response is one of support to Mr.Waytha Moorthy :
Unfortunately he was fed with wrong info.
Are you telling every single leader in this country are saints..? Do I have to give examples to prove this theory to you?
Even our top leader has been connected to many controversial issues and will you dare to question him?
Will you even have the guts to post an article questioning him over @@ @@@@?
You as a Malaysian Indian easily pick on another Malaysian coz you know he wont retaliate.
We Malaysian Indians are always the easy target. You are blasting him as though he has committed murder. He made a wrong statement and you commented that's it.....but yours sound more like personal attack.
We Malaysian Indian are the real enemies and we are the one who back stab our own race. Not the Malays or the Chinese.
PS..: Dear @@@@ hope you allow this message to go thru. TQ
6th response in response to the 5th forumer :
Dear @@@@@@ @@@@@ ,
You light a candle in darkness instead of cursing the darkness but you also don't go around burning the neighborhood to create light .
For you information , i have written many articles criticizing practically every leader whom I felt were doing something wrong but unfortunately it never appeared in @@ @@@@ but it always appears in Malaysian Hindraf .
The punishment is said to be more severe for the person who provokes or motivate others to commit murder and not the murderer himself .
Waytha Moorthy claimed it was a reliable source . He is a lawyer . He must know that he has to get the facts right first. When I got the sms , I was angry too.
I wanted to forward these sms to others too . However , I spent the whole day calling everyone I know to get confirmation .
Wathya Moorthy's message was very provocative and dangerous . This is not a child we are dealing with.
He is an educated man and dangerously a lawyer who can think in different angle . If it was any other man , I would not have been very critical . I would contribute it to lack of education .
What you see is very superficial which is in your level of thinking .
Let me see if I recall it well .
In Mahabharata , Yudhistra and Dhuroyodhana were tested in various ways to determine who makes a better king?
In one of the test they were presented with a 3 prisoner who were guilty of a murder .
Dhuryodana sentenced all three to their death.
Yudhistra sentenced each one differently. One prisoner was a soldier, a farmer and a priest .
The priest was sentenced to death , farmer to life in prison and the soldier was given a stern
Wathya Moorthy's words were very cleverly formed. At a glance the message is plain.
When you read it carefully you will feel and urge of anger sipping through. This is how a mind works? An educated mind will form its own reasoning but a simple mind will see it as it is .
If you do not mind , ask a psychiatrist to analyze the letter . Ask him his view?
I do not go around attacking people on personal grudge.
Waytha Moorthy made a wrong statement, you said . Where is his apology?
Never mind. He is overseas . Good for him.
Each have their own opinion based on what their minds allow them to see.
To me, Waytha Moorthy is just a coward hiding somewhere overseas taking advantages of
situations here to create further unrest .
If you are a person who cares for the people then you should be down in the playing field and see matters for yourself.
We are responsible for our actions and every action has its own equal and opposite reaction .
7th response in general :
Respected Sir ,
I usually analyze peoples writing . I missed this one since I was in a hurry and was bit upset about this issue as I was worried about my family in Kamunting .
If Mr.(Moderator) allows , I will try to analyze this letter . Let us not look into the subject of this letter but the intent of this letter as a case study .
They are many mails sent to @@ @@@@ , sometimes I think it is very difficult for the moderator to really decide.
Some of us read in details and some of us do not waste time in things like this . Your point about the effect on peoples mind is true . Our subconscious mind works on a different level .
If there is are lawyers in @@ club who could read thru Mr.Wathya's statement and tell us their point, that will be good .
Do not use this opportunity to personally attack anyone . We use this letter as a sample to analyze and educate ourselves .
I leave this matter to Mr. (Moderator).
I am ending the series of responses to the call by Mr.Waytha Moorthy to the Kamunting Malaysian Indians to take action against those who are said to be the assaulters or attackers of the Indians there to share with you what I make of this situation?
From the responses above, we can all see that today's Malaysian Indians are much more rational and take their time to study and assess the truth of the matter before coming to any conclusions?
Recently, there has been a spate of police lock up deaths etcetera involving those suspects from the Indian community who had been arrested for various crimes.
The truth of the matter that some of them sustained physical injuries during their arrests can't be denied by anyone for the marks and wounds are there for all to see.
The circumstances leading to such deaths and the often ridiculous reasons being given by the police need to be investigated.
But then again, as in many other police forces all over the world, does anyone really expect the police force to go against their own members in the truest of sense?
'Esprit de corps' always takes precedence because that's how uniformed forces work. All for one and one for all, etc.
Those who died are said to be criminals. They were arrested for crimes that they were accused of committing?
In the process of law enforcement, it is a matter of life or death for the police officers who risk their life's and limbs to apprehend the criminals and lately many of the police force have themselves been injured in their course of duty and some have died at the hands of the criminals themselves.
Who mourns for them?
Who cares about the wives and kids left to fend for themselves when the father died for his country at the hands of criminals?
Robbers who mercilessly hack to death their victims during the course of their robberies at petrol stations, convenience stores, etc?
Think I am bluffing?
Watch this and judge for yourselves as to the ruthless barbaric ways of the robbers here?
Did the convenience store workers put up a fight against them to merit such a hacking using the long parangs by these criminals?
Who amongst the Malaysian public gives a second thought about the dangers and plight of the men in blue?
Not that many, right?
Most of us get to live in relative safety because of the presence of these police officers who work their butts off to ensure we get to sleep in peace.
Yes, there are some black sheep in the police force but aren't there the equal number of such vermin amongst society as well?
Hell! Some families are cursed to have such criminals torturing their own lives by endangering even their own flesh and blood to satisfy their drug addiction or other forms of abuse.
Some rape even their own siblings and beat to death their own wife, parents, siblings or even their own children!
We read about these criminals daily in the papers and mass media.
If not for the presence of the police force, our safety at large will be just not there and we will all be at the danger of falling victim to the crazy, demented ones out there.
I for one truly respect and appreciate the ones who have spoken up here denouncing the man who is at large overseas who instead of using his knowledge and skill to improve the lives and future of his community has chosen instead to pit them against the rulers of the land by driving them nuts and goad them every now and then to confront the juggernauts of the Malaysian law enforcement agencies and Government of the day.
What good does that do for the Malaysian Indians?
Who has benefited from being tear gassed and baton charged by the FRU?
Do we not have the power to choose our government through the ballot box every few years?
Why jeopardize our life and limb just to satisfy the humongous egos of those who only dare to instigate the masses to face the FRU and so on but run and hide when the situations gets too bloody hot for them to handle?
I have seen the same take place in all the protests and demonstrations that have been orchestrated in this country.
I have even been involved in some myself but with age and experience, I too have come to realize that life is much more than that?
I for one have decided to make sure that the remaining moments of my life goes towards helping my fellow Malaysians live a better life and get to co exist in relative peace, safety, harmony and progress with one another.
Instead of wasting our precious remaining moments of our short temporal lives here on earth in useless petty quarrels, etcetera..I'd rather we spend it to seek our livelihood and prosper ourselves and our neighbors, Malays, Chinese, Indians, Sikhs, Orang Asli's, Caucasians, whatsoever!
To Mr.Waytha Moorthy,
If you truly love the Malaysian Indians, you'd do better to come home and help them here in getting better living standards using the smart proven ways than to pit them against the ones in power unnecessarily.
He who puts his own self interest above others, usually ends up losing it all at the end of the day.
Be wise and let Malaysians live in peace as one brother and sisterhood.
To the ones whom I have quoted, may Almighty God bless and guide you all to success and a better tomorrow, free from harm and danger.