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Thursday, March 16, 2006

Breaking news about the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh!

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Breaking News!

Tumpat,Kelantan Darul Na'im, Malaysia. Wednesday, 15th March 2006.

A tiff between an imam and a group of tabligh missionaries almost led to a scuffle at a mosque in Wakaf Baru here last night.

The 8pm incident took place after Maghrib prayers, when the missionaries were huddled in a discussion in one corner while the imam was speaking to another group in the mosque.

This irked the imam, who asked the missionaries to leave.Mosque committee member Sanusi Mohd, 43, said a discussion group or any type of programme by outsiders in the premises required the approval of the committee.

The leader of the missionaries allegedly ignored the imam and continued his discussion.

This further angered the imam, who raised his voice and scolded them for not respecting the mosque committee’s authority.

"An argument broke out as the tabligh refused to listen to the imam. A member of the group decided to switch off the lights before they fled," Sanusi said.

One of the missionaries lodged a police report last night, claiming that the imam had threatened their safety with a concealed knife.

Kelantan CID chief ACP Mohd Razalli Mohd Yusuf said police received reports from both parties soon after the incident.However, he said the case was a civil dispute as initial police investigations revealed that no weapons were used.

News source :


In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.

Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi ta'ala wabarakatuh.

Dear Muslims,

The final fatwa of Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez bin Baaz in warning against the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh

His excellency, Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez bin Baaz (rahima-hullaah) was asked about the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh, so the questioner asked:

'Your excellency, we hear about the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and that which their da’wah entails. So would you advise me to join this Jamaa’ah (group). I anticipate your guidance and advice, and may Allaah reward you immensely'.

So the Shaykh responded by saying:

"Whoever invites to (the path of) Allaah, then he is a muballigh (one who conveys the message (of Islaam)), (as the hadeeth mentions): ((Convey from me, even if it be a (single) Aayah));

However, the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh (originally) from Basti Nizamuddin, Delhi, India have many deviations.

They have some aspects of bid’ah and shirk, so it is not permissible to go (out) with them, except for a person who has knowledge and goes (out) with them to disapprove of what they are upon and to teach them (the truth).

If, however, he goes (out) to follow and adhere to them, then no.

That is because they have deviations, mistakes and lack of knowledge.

However, if there was a Jamaa’ah doing tableegh other than them, from the people of knowledge, then (it is permissible to) go out with them for daw’ah purposes.

If there was a person of knowledge who goes out with them to enlighten and guide them, along with teaching them such that they leave their falsehood and embrace the way of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah, (then that is good)".

[So, the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and those who sympathise with them, will benefit from this fatwa, illustrating the reality of their ‘aqeedah and Manhaj and the writings of their scholars whom they blindly follow]

[This was extracted from the tape: ‘Fatwa Samaahatush-Shaykh ‘Abdul ‘Azeez Ibn Baaz concerning the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh’ which was published in Ta’if about two years before the Sahykh’s death.

The tape refutes the cover-up of the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and the old statement of the Shaykh which was published before their reality and manhaj was made clear to him.

The Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and the Ikhwaan are amongst the 72 sects

His Excellency, Shaykh ‘Abdul ‘Azeez Ibn Baaz (Rahima-ullaah) was asked:


"May Allaah grant you the best (of His favours).

In the hadeeth of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa Sallam), relating to the splitting of the Ummah, he says: ((…and my Ummah shall split into 72 sects…)).

So, is the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh, with what they have in terms of shirk and innovations; and also the Jamaa’ah al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen, with what they have in terms of partisanship and revolting/rebelling against the leaders and lack of obedience; from the 72 sects"?

So, he (the Shaykh) responded, may Allaah forgive him and bestow upon him His immense mercy:

"They are from the 72 (sects). Whoever opposes the ‘aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah enters the fold of the 72 (sects)".

The meaning of the Prophet’s (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa Sallam) statement ((My Ummah)) is: the Ummah of Ijaabah, i.e. the Ummah of response; those who responded to the Prophet’s call and revealed their allegiance to him.

And the meaning of 73 sects: the victorious sect which adhered to him and was upright in their religion and 72 of those sects – amongst them the kuffaar, the sinners and various innovators.

So, the questioners asked: "Are these two groups (Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh and Jamaa’ah al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen) from amongst the 72 sects"?

He responded: "Yes, they are from the amongst the 72 sects, along with the Murji’ah and other than them; the Murji’ah and the Khawaarij – some of the people of knowledge regard the Khawaarij from amongst the kuffaar, out of the fold of Islaam although amongst the 72 sects".

[Taken from the recording of the Shaykh’s lessons in Sharh al-Muntaqaa in Ta’if approximately 2 years or less before his death].

The ruling regarding going out with the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh

His excellency, Shaykh ‘Abdul ‘Azeez Ibn Baaz (rahima-hullaah) was asked:


"I went out with the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh to India and Pakistan. We used to congregate and pray in masjid within which there were graves and I heard that the salaah in a masjid within which there is a grave is invalid.

What is your opinion of my salaah and should I repeat them?

What is the ruling about going out with them to these places?"


"Indeed, the Jamaa’ah at-Tableegh do not have real knowledge pertaining to issues of ‘aqeedah so it is not permissible to go out with them except for the one who has real knowledge of the correct ‘aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. In this, he can enlighten them, advise them and co-operate with them in good because they are active in their affairs.

However, they are in need of more knowledge from those who can enlighten them amongst the scholars of Tawheed and Sunnah".

May Allaah grant everyone understanding of the religion and firmness upon it.

Source of Fatwa :


As per my previous posting regarding the deviant Tableeghis, this incident is just one that has been reported to the police and the news media has caught wind of it.

This arrogant practice of the Jamaa'ah at Tableegh takes place all over the country and other parts of the world at every prayer time!

As soon as the Imam completes the congregational prayers, the Tableeghis would immediately get up without joining the congregation and the Imam in the main Do'a prayers and go get their 'Fadha'il Amal' kitab compilation of fabricated and weak hadiths and other stories put up by their late Moulana Elyas.

They would then form a separate circle consisting of their fellow Tableeghis and other members of the unsuspecting congregation thus dividing the masjid or surau's attending Muslims into two groups!

Oldtimers and those in the know would ignore the Tableeghis and stay with the Imam whilst those who are naive and do not know heck about the Tableeghis would innocently go sit with them in their circle , nodding and affirming whatever the Tableeghi member elected to read from their Fadha'il Amal kitab chooses to read from.

It is this kind of arrogant, egoistical divisive behaviour of the Jamaa'ah at Tableegh that is wreaking havoc all across the Muslim world!

This act of forming a separate group and dividing the attending congregation is what angers the Imams and members of the congregation who hold fast to the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW where we as Muslims are asked to be in One Jamaah and not break away into one group of Tableeghis, another of PAS members or another of UMNO members and so on !

After the main prayers , it is the Sunnah to recite the Wirid and Dhikr @ Remembrance of Allah's Asma'ul Husna @ Allah's Beautiful Attributes and Names , and to recite the Salawat upon The Prophet SAW as additional acts of prayer followed by the congregational Do'a.

After the completion of the Do'a, then it is up to the individual Muslim to pray the Supplementary Sunat Prayers after which they are free to do what they wish like reading the Qur'an or listen to any sharing of authentic knowledge from the Hadiths of the Prophet SAW.

The Tableeghis deviant manners are what drives the wedge between the Ummah splitting them asunder! It is for these wayward acts that they are condemned as deviant by the Ulama's and Fatwa's issued against them by the Muftis and Syaikhul Islams of the world.

To Non Muslims and ill informed Muslims or Muslims in name only (those who do not practice), such fellows would come across as bonafide true blue adherents of the Islamic faith and true Muslims but to those who are aware of all the Tableeghis deviant ways, they would stay away from such enemies of the Muslim Ummah!!!

The Prophet SAW asks us to hold firmly to the Qur'an and his Sunnah. Verily the actions of the Jamaa'ah at Tableegh run contrary to the example shown by the Messenger Sallalahu alaihi wassallam.

O Muslims, be aware of those who lead those who are naive astray from the Manhaj of Islam and deviate as they please. Stick to the Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jama'ah and be true to our faith. Insyaallah hu Ta'ala Rabbul Alameen.

Wabillahi taufeek wal hidayah wassalamu alaikum warahmatullhi wabarakatuh.