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Wednesday, November 21, 2007

HINDRAF 's Anti Malaysian Appeal to UK - Treason of the Highest Order?

I refer to the HINDRAF's action in asking the British Government and a whole list of other foreign nations leaders and other organizations in interfering into Malaysian Internal Affairs as highlighted in's web portal.

I reproduce below the contents of the HINDRAF's letter of appeal to the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in it's entirety without any editing except for grammatical errors and layout of the paragraphs.

Please click here to see the referred website which has published the referred act of which might infer this act of HINDRAF to be that of treason against our nation?

You be the judge. Read through the entire contents of this appeal to outside forces to interfere in our nation's internal and domestic affairs. If this is not treason, what is it?

Anyone care to comment?


Hindraf appeal to Gordon Brown to refer Malaysia to World Court (&) and International Criminal Court

Hindu Rights Action Force
No. 135-3-A, Jalan Toman 7,
Kemayan Square,
70200 Seremban, Negeri Sembilan
Malaysia. Tel : 06-7672995/6
Fax: 06-7672997 Email

The Rt. Hon. Gordon Brown
Prime Minister of the United Kindom
10 Downing Street, Fax: +442079250918
London, URGENT

Dear Sirs,




We refer to the above critical matters in Malaysia but which generally gets the least attention locally even by the Opposition parties, NGO’s, the Malaysian Human Rights Commission and the media for this community is generally regarded as politically insignificant, do not draw local or international funding and are deemed not pressworthy. To the contrary the Malaysian government has successfully projected itself to the world as a modern Islamic thinking country which is not true.

The ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia were brought in to Malaysia by the British some 200 over years ago. Since independence in 1957 the Malaysian Indians have been permanently colonialised by the Islamic fundamentalist and Malay chauvinists UMNO led Malaysian government.

Among the recent atrocities committed by this government are as follows:-

1.100 over Indians were slashed and killed by the UMNO controlled Malaysian government in the Kampung Medan mini genocide. Despite numerous appeals, the Malaysian Human Rights Commission has refused to hold a Public Inquiry. The UMNO controlled Malaysian courts struck off a victim’s public interest civil suit for a Public Inquiry to be held without even the said UMNO controlled government having to file in their defence. The UMNO controlled Attorney General and the Inspector General of Police refused to investigate and / or initiate an inquest into the death of at least six Indians in this tragedy despite.

2. Every week one person at average is killed in a shoot to kill policy and in every 2 weeks one person is killed in police custody. About 60% of these victims are Indians though they form only 8% of the Malaysian population.

3. In every three weeks one Hindu temple is demolished in Malaysia.

The latest being the demolishment of the Mariaman temple in Padang Jawa, Shah Alam, Selangor early this morning (15.11.2007) and the next being the (Mutaiya) Hindu temple in Sungai Petani scheduled for the 29.11.2007.

A violent armed pre down attack at 4.00a.m this morning was launched by the UMNO controlled Malaysian government backed by about 600 police, riot police, Islamic extremist and armed terrorists which completely destroyed this temple.

In an attack two weeks ago, uniformed police, riot police and city Council officers hurled rocks and attacked unarmed Hindu devotees with knives, sticks and iron rods
(see for pictures).

At least 20 Hindu devotees were seriously injured and 19 arrested including 4 of their United Kingdom trained lawyers in direct violation of Article 5 (Right to life) Article 8 (Equality) Article 11 (Freedom of Religion) Section 295 (defiling a place of worship), Section 296 (disturbing a religious assembly), 298A(causing racial disharmony) and Section 441(criminal trespass) of the Malaysian Penal Code.

These authorities are plagued by an above the law mindset and in fact liberally take the law into their own hands. These atrocities however does not happen to almost all Islamic places of worship. Please visit for further and better particulars.

4. State sponsored direct discrimination against the Indians in Public University intakes, Indian (Tamil) Schools, skills training institutes, civil service and private sector job opportunities, business and license opportunities and in almost all other aspects of daily life.

Despite our hundreds of letters, appeals and pleas to the Malaysian King and Sultans, the Prime Minister, Attorney General, Inspector General of Police, Ministers, Chief Ministers and the latest being our letters to the Prime Minister dated 29.10.2007 and 30.10.2007 and to the Attorney General dated 1.11.2007 the Malaysian authorities are only proceeding with greater ferocity and with impunity with very little regard for the Federal Constitution and laws of Malaysia. So please help us.


We fear that this peace loving Indian community of Tamil origin having been pushed to the corner and the persecution getting worse by the day may be forced to into terrorism in a matter of time as what has happened to the Sri Lankan Tamils.


On our part we are committed to a peaceful and lawful struggle and pray and appeal that the Government of the United Kingdom:-

1. Moves an emergency United Nations resolution condemning these state sponsored atrocities and persecutions of Malaysian Indians in Malaysia.

2. Refers Malaysia to the World Court and the International Criminal Court for Crimes against it’s own ethnic minority Indians

Thank You,

Yours Faithfully

Legal Adviser


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I understand that such an unprecedented move by HINDRAF could be an act of desperation and imagined fears of seeing their fellow Malaysian Indians suffering emotional, mental and physical pains especially in those who see no more reasons for them in waiting for Samy Vellu and his MIC party to do anything effectively for them to ease their poverty situation , illegal temples getting demolished, etc.

Please do not misunderstand that this blogger is anti-Indian or whatever for I regard all reasonable and rational Malaysians as my fellow citizens and wish everyone well.

The reason for me in raising this matter is because I worry that such a precedent might be like opening the doors for foreign powers to come invade us again in the name of human rights and all such crap that US President George Bush Jr. used to legitimize his objectives to invade and destroy Iraq!

His excuse was that Saddam Hussein had amassed weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to the world especially to the United States of America and that Saddam had been torturing his people.

It is true that some Iraqis suffered under Saddam but today almost all Iraqis have had their families and selfs humiliated and personal liberties and lives destroyed by the very American forces whom they thought had come to deliver them from their hellish existence under Saddam only to find out too late today that the US is even worse than the hanged ex President of Iraq!

Imagine having your doors to your homes kicked in and your homes invaded by the invading American forces who violate and desecrate your privacy and stomp in all over your homes in their filthy boots and vulgar behaviors towards yourself , your wife, your children, your siblings, your parents, relatives etcetera under the claim of hunting down freedom fighters?

Yes, those whom the media terms and calls as 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' are but individual citizens of Iraq who have the courage and self honor to stop the illegal trespassing upon their lives and homes by the murderers in US Army uniforms who coldbloodedly terrorize a sovereign nation that was Iraq, rob, loot, rape and murder at will without an iota of conscience or compassion towards ordinary civilians in full view of the whole wide cuckolded world!

What kind of human rights are the Iraqis enjoying today? Millions of Iraqis have suffered and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed as a result of US invading and taking over the country!

To me, HINDRAF seems to be making a huge mistake that is akin to gambling with the entire Malaysians future by asking the former British colonialists to come invade us again in the name of democracy and human rights!

Is HINDRAF dead sure that the Brits will compensate them for the miseries the Indians here in Malaysia have suffered as a result of the British bringing over their forefathers to work in the rubber estates and build highways for Malaya back then?

Has Britain ever recompensated any of its former colony's for the brutalities it inflicted upon them and robbing the colony's riches and carting it all back home to England?

Has Britain recompensated India and its Maharajahs of yore for all the riches it stole from the Indian motherland?

Has Britain returned to India the Koh I Noor diamond and other priceless gems it keeps till this very day as part of the 'British Crown Jewels' when in fact it is known that such a treasure belongs to the Indian Moguls and the Republic of India ?

So, to me, it seems like HINDRAF is asking a known murdering robber to come into our home because it is so bloody afraid of the rascal little thieves in the BN Government?

Am I right or wrong in worrying this way?

Okay, let's focus on the main issues being raised by HINDRAF. Illegal temples demolitions.

The reality that thousands of illegal temples have mushroomed all over the nation and built without getting the consent of the local authorities is something that HINDRAF has to acknowledge and work together with the Malaysian Hindu Sangam and the Malaysian Indian Congress Party led by Samy Vellu, the Malaysian Works Minister to solve the problems domestically instead of resorting to an act that looks like a clear case of treason against Malaysia?

Pondering aloud, am I right in assuming that the building of illegal temples all over the country by irresponsible folks amongst the Malaysian Indian Hindu community looks like an agenda of getting alternative legalized sites for such temples when the local authorities come to demolish the said illegal temples as what took place in Penang's Kg.Rawa incident?

Is this a modus operandi of the very folks whom HINDRAF is championing, who go around and build temples here and there as they wish, knowing fully well that sooner or later, such temples will face demolishing by the local authorities and they will get an offer of alternative temple sites which will be granted and allocated to them in return, complete with the land titles and provided with all other necessary utilities?

From the way, this appeal has been worded, the whole world would jump to the conclusions that life here for Malaysians especially of those from the Indian community is a living hell or outlandish nightmare!

Are things really so terrible for the Malaysian Indians here that such an act of appealing to Britain by HINDRAF to come interfere in Malaysian internal affairs has to be their chosen way?

Can such an act go unheeded by the Malaysian Government?


tez_m said...

Salam bro..

This is indeed a rather serious issue, not to be taken lightly at all.

On one hand, setting up illegal structures without necessary permits is a foolish thing to undertake. On the other hand, the authorities could be more tactful during the process of demolishing such sites.

We have heard and seen many times that the authorities would not even allow the worshippers to salvage their deities in the temples etc before carrying out the demolition.
It's like intentionally rubbing salt to the wound.

Even in squatter cases eg. in Kg Chubadak, Kg Rimba Jaya and Kg Berembang recently, the manner in which the authorities were in a hurry to demolish seemed rather high handed, even to the extent of going against court orders for some cases seemingly.

I just hope that the planned rally in front of the British High Commission would not be a catalyst for disastrous racial chaos in our country.

Having said that, it certainly does seem that all those pent up anger and dissatisfaction will have to explode sooner or later.

Scary times ahead indeed. *Sigh*

Peace Be Upon You

busyybody said...

this systems of ours is breaking us up,it's so sad to read this,we are going to try harder,but not this way.the neglecticity was done on purpose,the systems had failed.we, the people of this country should be the who will change it,not foreigners.

mahaguru58 said...

Wa'alaikumsalam Brother tez_m,

It is indeed sad to see what is happening to our Malaysian Indians and fellow citizens who are being marginalized as a whole save for a few politicians like those in the MIC's top leaderships who don't seem to really make efforts to improve the lot of their people.

Whether we like it or not, life here in Malaysia does discriminate according to race , religion and social status.

We aren't blind to all the different lifestyles and social implications of the present system of government which is secular in its entirety and only gives 'lip service' to ruling over us under the guise of administrating this so called Islamic nation of Malaysia according to the values of 'Islam' which is certainly not!

Building mosques and donning the tudung or sporting a skullcap or songkok does not constitute running a truly Islamic nation that puts to practice the Islamic Syariah to the letter as what Allah the Almighty and His Final Messenger the Blessed Prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Alaihi Wassallam enjoin us to do!

The BN government has been running a sham and they know it deep down in their hearts that Malaysia is just like a Chinese Opera.

Under the flamboyant theatrics of coming across as an Islamic nation and 'leader of the OIC', in actual reality this country is just an illusion of what a true Islamic nation should be.

The Malaysian Indians have been getting the short end of the stick because their present day leaders do not truly work for the betterment of their race and they have failed to control the proliferation of illegal temples built by unscrupulous individuals who have ulterior motives of driving in the wedge deeper within their society.

We have to admit that opportunities aren't being given to the average Malaysian Indian, male and female as what their forefathers enjoyed during the time when this nation was called Malaya.

The British being colonialists surely exploited their subjects throughout their British Empire willfully and decimated the Indians in India through their 'divide and rule' policies!

They stole countless treasures from their colonies and brought those riches back home to England.

They lorded over us and to this day are accorded preferential treatment by the colonial worshipers amongst us.

There are Malay Royalties here who speak as if they are 'British Elites' and many so called Malays dye their dark hair blond and wear blue eyed contact lenses pretending to be Caucasians!

These great pretenders thrive freeloading on the general Malaysian tax ringgits taken by force by the IRD @ LHDN and they are just in turn 'lording' over us.

They get honorific titles bestowed upon themselves and think that when they fart, perfume comes out and when they sit on their toilets, gold squeezes out from their posteriors.

Such is the reality of our 'sons of the earth' whilst the Indians, Chinese and other ethnicities are deemed to be illegal aliens conceived and born in outer space!

Islam if practiced as what Allah and His Messenger have asked of us will see all ethnicities treated with justice and fairness according to the Supreme Constitution of our God and Creator and not as what the 'great pretenders' are pulling on us!

HINDRAF are only goading the Indians into an unnecessary clash with the Malaysian regime's security forces and when any Indian is bloodied or even killed in the demonstration being planned this Nov. 25th in front of the British High Commissioner's complex at Jalan Ampang, I wonder if the leaders of HINDRAF are ready and willing to compensate the dependents of any unfortunate Malaysian Indians who are in potential danger of being killed for the interests of the top leadership of this yet to be recognized organization?

Indians of Malaysia. You decide what's going to be?

You can go fight for your rights the physical way and face the BN's FRU forces and bleed for your cause or you can go about it in a democratic way.

Either way seems a 'lose lose situation' for you folks as I see it.

You are truly caught between the 'devil and the deep blue sea'.

My sincere condolences.

As long as the MIC refuses to admit their shortcomings and criminal breach of trusts that you Indians have been forced to place in them, your situation will never change.

UMNO will never practice true Islam.

PAS has yet to prove itself capable of delivering to us an alternative line up of just leaders, ready to take on the BN.

PKR is a gathering of UMNO hasbeens and PM wannabe's.

DAP is forever the perpetual objectioners and more rhetoric than deliverers.

We are all truly screwed, metaphorically speaking!

When we dare to compare our lot to those of Singapore, we are deemed to be 'Singapore lovers' and told to emigrate by dimwits who think and claim that they own the birthplace of all of us, true sons of this land called Malaysia.

Aren't we all victims of a truly irresponsible bunch of crooks calling themselves as the 'Yang Berhormat's' @ 'Respectable Ones'?

I have lost any iota of respect for these criminals masquerading as the best amongst us in that august house called Parliament but which to me is more alike an 'animal farm' as characterized by the famous novelist Orson Welles.

Whatever it is, I truly hope and pray that whatever is going to take place on Nov the 25th will not be the reason why our nation got occupied again by our former colonialists.

nila said...

UMNO will never practice true Islam.

So why is Malaysia announced as an Islamic Nation,can i ask?

mokthar_ismail said...

Walaupun kaum tamil/ malayalam/ ceylon yang mengamalkan agama hindu sedikit peratusnya di Malaysia, mereka adalah kaum yang terbanyak terlibat dengan jenayah dan gangsterism... jadi tak hairanlah kalau mereka sendiri berasa hanya kaum mereka yang ramai ditahan oleh PDRM...

sendiri buat sendiri tanggung ler...

goblog said...

This seems rubbish. Only about 10% were true.

mahaguru58 said...

Sometimes, things like these need to be allowed to run their course and their participants left to vent out their frustrations and also to face the consequences of their actions.

According to the propagators of free speech and expressions, this is the foundations of democracy!

As expected, any ruling regime would not take these protests without trying to beat down such an uprising for if allowed to go on unhindered, it might mean their downfall due to the aroused passions and emotions.

So, whatever has taken place today is just what we all expected to happen and the rally goers were treated exactly as all Opposition members have experienced in rallies and protests before this.

HINDRAF leaders had it lucky when they first held their protests in Putrajaya compared to what took place at the BERSIH Batu Burok rally!

Today, HINDRAF had their first taste of entangling with the BN's security forces and this time around, the police got seriously wounded also.

Compared to the BERSIH rallygoers who were a bit more placid, enraged HINDRAF members weren't compromising as reported skirmishes between the FRU and HINDRAF members at Batu Caves were said to be serious fights involving usage of stones and crash helmets to battle the police!

I saw on Prime News on TV. images of bloodied policemen but none showed of the injured HINDRAF members.

At the LPT Lanchang rest area, a policeman told me that one HINDRAF member had been killed in the clash but I have yet to see any evidence of this.

Looks like November 2007 will go down in our nation's history as the month of citizen's uprising!

Bob said...

Most of the temples that you refer to as illegal were built before Aug.31st, 1957. They were built by Indian laborers brought to Malaya by the British to man the plantations and build new infrastructure. Dont forget the British also brought in Sri Lankan's and Indians to man the civil service & health channels. So the issue of being illegal is questionable. It is a question of economics. Trace the ownership of the land, I warrant that most of the temples that were torn down were near a piece of land that a major politician or a supporter was developing, and they wanted the temple land too.

I wonder why it wasnt seditious when UMNO's leaders were saying that the Keris will be drenched in blood?

Ask u a question? Do u think it is proper for an examination to be held immediately after or the day before Hari Raya? What if I tell u that UPM had exams on Deepavali Day for 2 consecutive years? Is that OK?

There is something fundamentally wrong. What's been forgotten in this mess is that Indians have been in Malaya since 3AD. They were first in Kedah, and in 30AD, after loosing to the Siamese kingdom, they moved southwards. They intermixed with Orang Asli, and also the various Indonesian groups. Nevertheless, Indians have been in this land for the longest time. Please google "Lembah Bujang" and "Kedaram". Dont forget Parameswara, the Hindu prince from Palembang.

melayu modern said...

Bob, you have to leave your baggage behind when the British left. It is now 2007 and the Malays have gained their country back after hundred of years of colonialsm. What was before is not anymore so questioning why hindus are not bumi is neither here nor there. They can be bumi if they go back to where they came from. I m sure their family are happy to see them though I think they will beg to come back and earn their mamak stalls.

I havent read anywhere about keris being drenched in blood.. you made it up didnt you being the typical liar. Though of course I applaud it if it was really said.

Bob you are talking rubbish because if Indian are longer here then they would be bumis and the british dont need to bring the labourers to work in estate..

melayu modern said...

well mahaguru you obviously dont understand the police is doing the job upholding the laws. The hindus are breaking the laws. So they must be stop. I think police should use rubber bullets. That should send the hindus hurrying back to india or the estates where they come from.

You cannot understand the concept rule of law. Thats what the police is for. We will teach you to respect the law and constitution.