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Friday, November 30, 2007

HINDRAF should work with MIC to solve their problems.



Mr.V.Ganabatirau who was arrested detained and locked up and later released at about 4.00p.m has vowed to continue his legal and peaceful struggle against the racist, malaysupremacist and Islamic extremist UMNO led Malaysian government’s 50 years of marginalisation and permanent colonialisation of the mere 8% politically, socially and economically suppressed, oppressed and marginalised for 50 years ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia.

Thank you,
Yours Faithfully,

Legal Adviser


It is headlines and statements like these which are creating an uneasy feeling between the majority of the Malaysian public especially amongst the Malay Muslim majority, the Barisan Nasional Coalition Government of Malaysia and HINDRAF which continues to fan or stoke the embers of racial and religious strife within our nation.

Where is these kind of inflammatory talk leading to? Do we need to see more blood being spilt or this time around, life's lost?

No doubt, we all acknowledge that what HINDRAF is asking for is reasonable in certain areas but to blatantly keep on publishing and posting inflammatory statements and headlines such as above is
surely a worrying sign that HINDRAF is not seeking a diplomatical end to their cause but a purely confrontational approach against the UMNO led, MCA , MIC and other political parties coalition
Government of Malaysia!

Is this wise on the part of their leaders especially learned lawyers who spearhead the abrasive modus operandi adopted by the Hindu Rights Action Force?

Is negotiations and non violent, non confrontational meetings with the BN government out of the question for HINDRAF?

Has Samy Vellu refused to entertain or meet the HINDRAF leaders?

I read today's statements by the Malaysian Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan stating
that he had offered alternative venues such as stadiums, civic halls, etc to the organizers of the rally but they refused on the grounds that they wanted onlookers to join them in the march to the British high Commissioner at Jalan Ampang on the 25th of November, 2007 which ended in tragedy where some HINDRAF supporters and the Malaysian police officers got seriously injured in the skirmishes.

The Malaysian Indians in HINDRAF really need to have a pow wow with the Malaysian Indian Congress and come to a solution that is acceptable to all.

Since the MIC is a senior member of the BN coalition Government, surely they can use their position in the Malaysian Cabinet to see to it that the grouses of the Malaysian Indian grassroots are attended to promptly.

From the way HINDRAF is complaining that the BN Government has failed to take care of their community since the last 50 years , we need to look into what the MIC has not done for them since Independence?

The MIC has been a major partner of the BN Government since day 1 of the coalition government coming into being!

Instead of HINDRAF taking to the streets with its supporters now, wouldn't it be more fitting for HINDRAF to rally its supporters and go see Samy Vellu and the Malaysian Indian Congress for failing to distribute the allocations and budgets shared by the BN Government amongst its members?

Don't tell us that all these years, the MIC has been withholding funds and allocations that surely Samy Vellu and his MIC party must have received for being part of the Malaysian Government?

If the MIC is an Opposition party such as PAS, the DAP or PKR, we can understand that certain funds and allocations for projects in their constituencies would have a funny way of not reaching the coffers or accounts of the Opposition MP's for the projects to be started or launched!

This has been the modus operandi of the BN since they started ruling Malaysia. Ask the Opposition MP's and State Assemblymen or women?

Yet in this case, we see the Malaysian Indians in HINDRAF sort of missing the forest for the trees and chasing after the BN Government especially UMNO and putting on the blinkers on their members and supporters to go on the warpath of confrontational approaches with such inciting battlecries of 'racist Malay supremacists and Islamic terrorists'?

This is seriously unfair and ungrounded for HINDRAF to behave in such a way!

As a Muslim, I have yet to hear of a concerted effort of UMNO's part in victimizing the Malaysian Indians what more of their fellow partner in the Barisan Nasional's senior main ally in the MIC?

How can HINDRAF say that?

If it is true that the Indians have been so marginalized and oppressed in all areas especially in religious matters by the 'Malay racist, supremacist, Islamist terrorist UMNO led BN Government, would they have allowed that tallest Murugan statue in the world in Batu Caves to be built?

Take a tour of our nation's religious establishments through all states. Don't tell me that you won't find Hindu temples all over the country?

I mean, let's be fair. HINDRAF is not being realistic here. They should be liaising with the MIC on all their grouses for the MIC is part of the BN government and whatever that HINDRAF is not happy about with the BN, should be discussed and demanded settlements and solutions by working with the MIC instead of resorting to confrontations with the authorities.

What is the MIC for?

Aren't they the ones who are supposed to be the main government channel for Malaysian Indians to seek and get whatever they want for their community?

Do we not have avenues for finding peaceful solutions to HINDRAF's demands?

I worry that if HINDRAF keeps going this way, we will only see a worse nightmare unfold right before our very eyes here for all Malaysians in the near future.

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department for National Unity, Datuk Dr. Maximus James Ongkili, says that HINDRAF has never made attempts to meet the National Unity Advisory Panel to seek solutions over their grouses.

So, HINDRAF, please realize that there are still many avenues for you to seek solutions for your problems.

Try to seek peaceful means to solve your woes, instead of using Gandhi's poster as your chosen symbol but come not an inch to the way and manner by which Gandhi strove for his cause to free India from the British Raj.

You are not anywhere being colonial subjects as were the Indians in India during the British colonial rule there.

You are learned individuals who can go about achieving your goals and aspirations the cultured way instead of having to face the FRU on the streets.

You have studied and graduated as lawyers, become professionals and reached a milestone that oppressed people would never have achieved if you are truly being marginalized by UMNO as you are accusing them of?

I am speaking as a fellow Malaysian Muslim and just being rational here discussing the issue as a Malaysian Blogger. Do not misinterpret that Mahaguru58 has turned UMNO spokesman! :P

Instead of rallying the masses to fight the government, HINDRAF's leaders would do better to rally the Indians to be more self-sufficient and improve their lot in areas of education, small businesses, enterprises and other meaningful pursuits.

Demand for such opportunities from the MIC which in turn will demand it from the Malaysian Cabinet. If you want it, you surely can find ways and avenues to get it.

Surely that is a more suitable way to improve the living conditions for the Indians and other communities here in our nation instead of having to go get teargassed and acid laced baths in the streets of our nation's capital?

I ask that Malaysians from all walks of life use the ballot box if you aren't happy with the government. This is the best way to obtain political power and attain what you wish for?

Anyway, I can only write here what I see as right and hope that things will improve for our nation from now on. If you want to know more, head on over to Malaysiakini for the latest updates.

I am sure that the general Malaysian Indian community are open to seeking solutions to their needs through dialogs and other peaceful means.

Let the MIC do their jobs right and work to solve your problems for you instead of forcing yourselves to resort to street protests to find a way out of your current predicaments.

May commonsense and goodwill prevail over all Malaysians especially in the hearts and minds of our fellow Malaysians in HINDRAF and in the MIC.


nkp777 said...

Dear Zainol,

Out of curiosity can i know what race do you belong to?

Are you a Malay?

or Are you the new brothers who masuk melayu?

or are you an Indian Muslim?

Coz imagine this if you are not a Muslim or even and hindu or any other religion you will be standing together with Hindraf or any other parties fighting for your rights.

You can deny my statements but imagine that brother.

I am not asking you to accept all the struggle of hindraf but think rationally what will happen to the Mahaguru if he is not a muslim?

Regards Nantha Kumaran, Kalimuthu, (012-3662632) I am not a anonymous writer but someone who reads your blog for some time and got agitated with your writting lately coz of your hypocritic comments.

Emm maybe you dont cARE coz you are muslim and you are allowed to enjoy all the previledges.

mahaguru58 said...

May peace be upon you Brother Nantha Kumaran.

I can understand the underlying frustrations that seethe beneath the choice of words that is in your comments.

Nevertheless, since you have identified yourself as to who you are, it is incumbent upon me to answer your questions, no matter if you accuse me of so many things that are actually uncalled for in a civil discussion about matters that are quite sensitive and if wrongly handled can be a source of strife between us.

I am answering you now out of courtesy to your telling me that you have been one of my readers for some time.

Thank you.

I have stated times and time again that Mahaguru58 is a born Indian Muslim by ethnicity and grew up in a purely Malay environment and traditional Malay kampong by the sea in Jelutong Timur, Penang Island.

I studied the Qur'an from my Malay Qur'an teachers and was a murid of the Perguruan Persilatan Pasak Padang there.

My childhood was totally like what you see being featured in Datuk Lat's 'Kampong Boy' series published by Berita Publishing.

I can relate to each and every life experience that Lat has featured and highlighted in his productions.

My ethnicity is Indian Muslim sir but I am not a typical Indian Muslim.

I can't help but be more inclined towards the Malay community as my whole life has been and is connected to the core of my soul with the Malays being my fellow Muslims.

Let the whole world know this and not wonder anymore as to who the hell is this Mahaguru58?

I know that certain folks amongst the HINDRAF supporters are pretty frustrated with the way they are caught in this dilemma where the MIC have failed to do what they are supposed to do for your community.

I am thankful to Allah the Almighty that He created me as a Muslim and for your information, each and every soul ever created in this world was created as a Muslim, including even your dear self.

Insya Allah @ God Willing, we can if we want to meet up one of these days and I will share with you as to why I say that?

I am sorry that you fail to get the gist of my writings about HINDRAF and my advice to those like you to be realistic about where you stand and what you fail to see that has been done for the Indians in Malaysia and how one can't be dependent on the bloody government for each and every thing we need in our life?

What privileges are you talking about that I enjoy in my life?

I have never depended on any bloody government subsidy or whatever because I have been working in the private sector all my life since leaving school in 1976.

I worked my butt off in the jewelery Sales & Retail Marketing line for most of my life in Penang and since moving to KL in 2001 have been self employed dealing with various businesses that is totally in the private sector too.

So, please dear Nantha Kumaran, get your facts right and do not assume that I am living off any government subsidy or Bumi privileges.

It's these kind of assumptions that cause people like you to unnecessary develop internal hatred and ill will towards people like me who have no bias towards the Indians or Non Muslims and instead become victims of racial and religious profiling by your dear self and others like you.

Be fair man!

Don't go thinking that Mahaguru58 doesn't care about my fellow Malaysians!

If you have truly been reading my blog for some time as you say you have, then how did you miss all my UMNO bashing, Abdullah Badawi bashing and taking my own Muslim community to task for their various wrongdoings?

Tell me bro!

I have to date published 818 articles to date and if you have read each and every one of them, you would by now have a fair idea as to who I am as a person?

Unfortunately, it seems that you haven't.

So, dear Nantha Kumaran, my advice to you is to study in depth about a blogger like me through reading my writings and only then , come to any conclusions.

But then again, it is entirely up to you as to whether you want to live with all that hatred boiling inside of you or just learn to be a fair viewed Malaysian citizen and know what is fact and what is fiction.

It's much better for your health.

I write as I see the situation here in our country.

You see any mistake or untruth in what I wrote, the decent thing to do would be to write to me and show me where I went wrong, albeit in a decent proper educated way.

You will see that I am not one who doesn't listen to advice and correct myself when i realize my slip ups.

I mean you and others who are 'struggling for whatever rights' you are seeking, no harm.

Bloggers like me are here for a reason. We are the alternative media and individual publishers of our thoughts and viewpoints as free citizens of Malaysia.

I happen to be an Indian Muslim Malaysian Blogger who blogs for the sake of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala and my fellow Muslims and Malaysians like you.

Learn to look for the good in others bro, Insya Allah, you will find them.

You want to look for faults, by all means, go ahead. I guarantee you that you will find plenty.

A final word of advice. Before you go ahead and do that, try standing in front of a mirror and check out your own self.

All the best to you and your 'struggles' bro.

Be well.

gangeticus said...

"HINDRAF should work with MIC to solve their problems."

You have seriously got to be kidding me!

mahaguru58 said...

Greetings Brother gangeticus,

Obviously, you don't agree to such a call. So, what do you propose?

You seem to be a smart guy.

Let the nation, the global blogosphere listen to your proposals?

From the way, I see it, the MIC, with all their 50 years of political representation of the Indians here in Malaysia, seem to be the only legitimate component of the current BN government and they actually have all the leverages to fight for the Indians in the Malaysian Cabinet.

How would you sir propose to solve the present state of affairs concerning the Malaysian Indians?

Hope that your answer would be much more than just a sentence.

Thank you.

mahaguru58 said...

Brother gangeticus,

Pretty interesting stuff you have there at

Email me if you want to promote the system.

gangeticus said...

I say man! You don't miss much do you?

Thanks for the visit bro, and I've sent you a mail on the matter (projek pun Melayu-India kooperasi jugak tu!).

If you guys need to login at the site, please use username mytm and password mytm.

Thanks bro. Will reply on the other matter kerana "belum dapat ilham lagi". hahaha!

mahaguru58 said...

Looking forward to reading what you have to propose for us Brother Murali a.k.a gangeticus.

Malaysia needs proposals from gifted citizens like you sir and I hope that the authorities are having their intelligence people reading blogs such as ours to get an inkling as to what is going on in the Malaysian blogosphere?

Hope you get inspired very soon Brother Murali.

Proud to know you are a fellow Penangite sir!

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Build on it man! Add more fine details to the whole layout!

I know some right contacts that can push this product to the right market for you.

Looking forward to meeting you in person Murali.

Great future's waiting you bro. :)