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Saturday, June 07, 2008

Raj Raman, Here's just a sample of the Qur'anic proof you asked for?





Brother Raj Raman, a fellow Malaysian has been asking me whether the Holy Qur'an Al Kareem has clear verses as to the fate of Unbelievers @ Kaffirs to be destined to the Hellfire?

He sms'd me saying that he'd apologize publicly to me if I can prove to him that there are such verses in the Holy Qur'an stating so and that he respects me for my firm belief in my religion of Islam.

He confessed to joining others in bashing me in Haris Ibrahim's blog recently concerning the 'Kaffir's issue.

I told him that I knew all about it as I had read all such comments myself at Haris's blog upon returning from my East Coast trip.

I take all such comments in my stride for those kinds of comments are just part and parcel of the blogosphere. We sure are not looking for bouquets or compliments 24/7.

There sure will be brickbats heading our way as a check and balance of open discussion here in the blogging world.:)

Nevertheless, here I am answering Brother Raj Raman. Hope these will satisfy you Raj!

I am sharing here just two verses from the Holy Al Qur'an Al Kareem, Almighty Allah's Final Testament to all Mankind as a sample of what Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has to say about the Unbelievers and their ultimate fate that He has promised?

There are lots more relevant verses but for now these will do.





6. Wakathalika haqqat kalimatu rabbika AAala allatheena kafaroo annahum as-habu alnnari

6. Thus was the Decree of thy Lord proved true against the Unbelievers; that truly they are Companions of the Fire!

Surah Al Mukmin Chapter 40 Verse 6. Holy Al-Qur'an Al Kareem.






60. Waqala rabbukumu odAAoonee astajib lakum inna allatheena yastakbiroona AAan AAibadatee sayadkhuloona jahannama dakhireena

60. And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!"

Surah Al Mukmin, Chapter 40 Verse 60. Holy Al-Qur'an Al Kareem.






















Brother Raj,

It is up to Almighty Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala to judge us and to do with us what He wills?

As a Muslim Caller to Islam, I feel that it is my duty to share with you as to what is there in the Holy Al Qur'an Al Kareem?

You can do your own studies by going through the translations of the Holy Qur'an from here.

There is a whole lot of information now available to us who bother to study and learn about anything that we wish to know in order to help guide us in our remaining life here on Earth?

The Internet Sacred Texts Archive is just a treasure trove for Knowledge Seekers.

'Open Source for the Human Soul' is their tagline.

I recommend this site to all those who want to or would like to study about the various faiths and sacred texts online?

It is free and available to everyone who wishes to learn and add to their knowledge.

My best regards to all.

May Almighty Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala bless and guide us towards His Mercy and Salvation.

Ameen.

6 comments:

Flaming Firestonez said...

Salam...

A firm stand, Pak Mahaguru58.

raj raman said...

Mr.zainol,

i posted one comments and appologies but with some subjective.

Lets the my appology stand there,as your points taken but my earlier posting missing.

As you are very gentlement,which i respect very much not hiding behind bushes,can u please explain in detail my two other question posted in haris blogs.

This two question is interlink to all this KAFIR issue.

If you can anwser my the other two question than i will call you mahaguru58.

In between admit and conffession is different .I admid clearly i bash u but i dont confess.

In english its will be double meaning.

raj raman-still will respect your point blank view.

MAHAGURU58 said...

Wa'alaikumsalam Bro.

Just being straightforward and upfront about what Islam is and is not?

Jazakallah for your support.

Wassalamualaikum wr wb.

MAHAGURU58 said...

May peace be upon you Brother Raj.

I actually do not demand any apology from you nor expected one from you with regard to your comments in Haris's blog.

It is just natural for those who have yet to learn about what Islam is to go with the flow with others who are equally not informed yet about the truth of Islam to lash out at folks like me who are a 100% committed towards our faith in Almighty Allah and Islam.

I would rather have someone like you who is gentleman enough to admit what you have said about me?

Just for your info, admit and confess are just about the same thing so please do not get worked up about the so called double meaning that you say it holds?

I for one sir welcome reasonable dialogs and even criticism provided it is done using the best of manners and terms unlike some sickos who love to make personal attacks without addressing the subject matter as they should!

In such cases, usually I just delete such comments and forget about them!

No point in me wasting my precious time in entertaining crazies and anonymous wackos, won't you agree?

As for your questions, please post them here and let me answer here in my own turf.

Take care.

raj raman said...

Mr.zainol,

My first posting i assume lost.
so altough you not demand appology,i had to HONOUR MY WORDS.

MY APPOLOGGIES.
(still will retract if i found new evidence)

INTER LINK QUESTION.

1.IF ALLAH/GOD SO POWERFULL AND CREATED MANKIND WHY IN THE FIRST PLACE THE GOD CONFUSED THE MANKIND BY KEEP UPDATING THE FIRST TORAH ,bibles and the last quran.(in between the mankind divided by 3 major religion by HIMSELF)

IN between AllAH/GOD said have created everything including universe.WHY THE GOD/ALLAH FAIL TO CONTAIN THE SATAN WISH OPENLY AGAINTS ALLAH/GOD.
(can i assume the god himself got some weakness which with such power still fails point blank for SATAN to obey).

AS I AM NON STARTER IN ANY RELIGION BUT SECOND QUESTION AS FOLLOWS.

2.Can i assume in between some human created religion to unite mankind or disunite mankind.

Example-torah by ABraham (i am not sure)

BIBLE- JESUS

QURAN - NABI MOHAMMAD (VERY SURE)

In this modern world still there are new religion created by some people,good or bad i dont know,because i like the free mind not to be control.so i just read trou and 4get.

rajraman say-whatever religion we believe,dont overboard,kind to any living being and IF there is GOD then
the god himself pass the judgement day by our deeds.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND AS YOU SAID WE ARE BROTHERS,WE WILL REMAIN ONE AT LEAST IN FACIAL VALUE AS MANKIND.

ps.MR.ZAinol-i dont know whether i can refer to this particular blogs because i cant bookmark your blogs)

chooki said...

I can identify with what you're saying. It is a fact to people who profess Islam, people who don't accept Allah as one and true God, and don't profess Muhammad as his last prophet, will go to a fiery hell.

In the same way it is a fact to people who choose Jesus Christ as personal saviour that God will punish those who have ignored His son and chose to walk away from the destined path. So in the same way Christians have a duty to share that if they choose to say otherwise (that Jesus is not son of God) then that must be a blatant lie and is deserving of punishment and judgement - what it is though, in my personal belief of Christianity, is not up to me to say. My bible describes Hell as a fiery place (at least, some parts of my bible says so), but in the end we're not really supposed to know, and its not like we have eyewitnesses who've come back to tell us what it is. So we live as we are, and we do what we can, and we will keep having to live with the choices we make.

Of course that will include the choice of what to believe or not to believe.

We live in the same world of differing realities and everyone has the right to believe to everything is that true to him.

Having said that I'll just say that both mahaguru and raj raman and even myself are all correct and we are all wrong at the same time. How we treat each other, and talk to each other, and engage with each other in discourse- ah, I'm not sure we're being 'rightfully' godlike in our attempts. That's my fear.