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Tuesday, July 06, 2010

Answering Fakhri ~ With regard to Anwar's session at the Woodrow Wilson Center for Scholars

I don't know why but my approving of this comment seems not to appear in the related article's comment space so I have no choice but to answer him here in the form of a whole new article?

Here is the comment and questions of Encik Fakhri, a declared Friends of Pakatan member.
Fakhri ~ Friends of Pakatan member.jpg

Fakhri has left a new comment on your post "Anwar's answers to questions in Washington about h...":

Salam Sir,

1) Thanks for the video BUT I think you ought to listen again. I think you misunderstood what Anwar said regarding The Islamic State. I think you missed on Anwar’s questioning the type of Islamic State. What do you think after listening it to the second time?
2) What is your opinion that Malaysia is an Islamic State as declared by Mahathir some years ago?

“In the video too, you can see how Anwar ridicules the proposal to implement the Islamic Syaria caning of those who flout Islamic laws against the drinking of alcohol? … Where the hell was his conscience then when he himself came from the very top leadership of the Malaysian Muslim Youth Brigade?”

I think this is regarding leadership concern and the leader was Mahathir. I think (my opinion of course), Anwar was during the time made no difference between me and you as far as positions were concern. Where were you? Where was I? So why should we condone the rich and famous? Anyway, I respect the lady herself who asked to be punished as how she should be punished. Still, why do we condone the rich and the famous?

Posted by Fakhri to MAHAGURU58 at Tuesday, 06 July, 2010

Wa'alaikumsalam.

Well
Brother Fakhri,
I understand very well where you are coming from and that your perspective as a Pakatan Friend might very well not be the same as mine. Its obvious and crystal clear from the response you have given here based on my perspectives of the whole Anwar Ibrahim going to Washington and explain himself after his stunt before the American Embassy anti-Israel protest.

To me sir, it makes no difference as to how much Anwar himself or yourself try and present your side of the story so to say with regard that he chose to vilify Al Islam and the Daulah al Islamiyyah which any true Muslim would strive to establish within our homeland no matter what obstacles and barriers, objections that some of the Kaffir Harbis, Musyriks or Munafiqeens would raise against it in the name of what the hell ever?

The question as to who is actually in charge of the country back then also does not arise since the man whom you have chosen to champion here was not just another ordinary rural coffeeshop orator but the Deputy Prime Minister of this country back then and hailing from the topmost leadership of the nation's Muslim Youth Brigade!

This is the very same fella whom I rooted for back then thinking that he will be the best candidate to be our Prime Minister once and when Dr Mahathir stepped down? I thought wrong!

Well, after seeing him belittle and ridicule the country's ulamaks per se and state his opposition to the very notion of setting up an 'Islamic State' per se as shown below in the video here, I state frankly that I will oppose this man's plans to run our country to the best of my capabilities within my circle of influence or reach!

You need to go read up about what I think of the sort of 'Islamic State' that Mahathir spoke of and do your own research and study about it. I can't really be expected to keep explaining my stand over and over again just because someone like you sir failed to look it up in the first place?

Try using the search engine at the top left most corner of this page and type your questions in.

You assume too much in thinking that I as a Muslim Blogger and Caller to Islam 'condone' the Syaria offenders amongst the 'rich and famous' here?

Wake up bro and repent from insinuating any such thing and assuming this and that about me.

Surely, you realize that the sin of committing fitnah is worse than the act of murdering innocents?

I welcome informed and well thought out statements or comments based upon the facts not a figment of your self adduced imagination that I said this or that or have inferred any such thing as you claim here in your comments above.

The truth of the matter here stands clear that your chosen leader is nothing but an enemy to the Ummah despite his constant chameleon like changing of colors to suit his chosen audience.

You might be enthralled by his oratory skills but this blogger surely isn't. His stand now is the same as that of the accursed Karpal Singh who challenged us to cross his dead body if we ever intend to set up Darul Islam here in Malaysia.

I challenged Karpal Singh about his anti-Islamic State stand at the Forum Keadilan and got the DAP Chairman to withdraw his statements and apologize to us Malaysian Muslims back then.

He apologized and withdrew his statements back then but to date remains totally against any formation of the Islamic State here in Malaysia as witnessed by his taking Nik Aziz to task over the latter's claim that the DAP has accepted the so called PAS's struggle to establish just such an Islamic State in Kelantan all these 20 over years that PAS has ruled the land of Siti Wan Kembang?

The Holy Prophet Muhammad, Rasulullah Sallalahu Alaihi Wassallam said that whoever takes the stand of the Kaffirs against Islam, is the same as them. Anwar's stand similar to Karpal Singh here warrants an equal opposition from us Muslims!

We can't simply allow these enemies of Allah to have it their way!!! Whether the declared ones such as Karpal and Company or the ones masquerading as this or that?


True Muslims must not ever support or assist such traitors to the Deenullah and the Muslim Ummah. Period!

You are at liberty though to support whom you will. As in the case here of the said anti-Darul Islam so called Pakatan leader.

I support only the authentic true `Ulul `Amri of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

Wassalamualaikum.

6 comments:

Fakhri said...

Any true Muslim would try to establish an Islamic State in own homeland. My opinion differs. I think this requires a corporative collective effort both by Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims (regardless political stance) must firstly justify that an Islamic State has the ability to provide and protect The Human Rights granted by God that lead to a nation of better morality, standard of living, peaceful, strong, harmony etc. The problem is, (purely my opinion that is based on own observation not based on any statistical facts), Muslims in Malaysia generally do not condone the Greatness of Islam. Examples are like quite high percentage of Muslims practice fiat money in our economy (this is of course nearly 100%), usury, assuming intoxicants, etc. Do we need an Islamic State to make us true Muslims OR do we need to be true Muslims to make an Islamic State.

A Japanese friend of mine who just came back from South Africa after Japan lost the game pointed out something interesting regarding the Muslims there:

a) They are the biggest donors
b) They have the lowest alcoholism cases.
c) They have the lowest rate of divorce
d) High morality
e) Honest traders
f) Love each other
g) The least dependent on the government
h) Above the poverty line

Fakhri said...

Salam Sir,

Thanks for answering the questions as a posting :-)

Yes, I am a Pakatan’s Friend (not a member of any political party but a voter though) so our perspectives on what were said stand apart. To me, this is normal based on different factors – education, environment etc. I have no problems with opinions contrary to mine. Hopefully by laying out our differences, we both can learn from one another.

We are quite contrary regarding leadership. Based on experience (not political), it ‘could’ make the difference as the leader is the decision maker. At the same time, I must admit, my knowledge on politics and so many others like economy is limited and I still wish how they were more like science and mathematics. That’s the reason the question was raised and I’ve got a long way to learn and hopefully be the least half as knowledgeable as you. Should a Deputy Prime Minister has the ultimate decision making, then I may agree with what you said on Anwar who was after all one of the founders of ABIM.

Fakhri said...

He said something interesting – Karpal Singh should go there to witness that Muslims are the better people (not as how he currently perceive) and Nik Aziz should go there to witness that Muslims can be better people although without living in an Islamic State.

Back to this Islamic State issue, no matter how any sides would want to define it, my main concern is Muslims, no matter where they are, are practicing Fiat Money in the economics activities. According to Quran, Fiat Money is clearly forbidden as goods or services must be traded with values while Fiat Money has no intrinsic values whatsoever. Historically too, Quran has pointed out that Fiat Money demolishes all the Basic Human Rights granted by God to humans and major reason why prophets were sent including our own Prophet Muhammad pbuh. To me, an Islamic State is meaningless should Fiat Money is practiced and those economics problems like increasing cost of living, inflation, deficit spending, national debt etc will continue that lead to many other social deteriorations.

Should any party are to realize the Islamic State, the Islamic Systems are to be justified – Islamic Economics System, Islamic Political System, Islamic Social System and so on. So far, in the Islamic Economics System itself, there are too many contradictory opinions regarding so many issues so any party are yet to justify for a unified system.

Fakhri said...

”You assume too much in thinking that I as a Muslim Blogger and Caller to Islam 'condone' the Syaria offenders amongst the 'rich and famous' here …I welcome informed and well thought out statements or comments based upon the facts not a figment of your self adduced imagination that I said this or that or have inferred any such thing as you claim here in your comments above.”

I apologize but my comment is not regarding you alone but us all. Maybe you are right of the self pigment of my self adduced imagination as I did not laying out any concrete basis like statistical figures. I however do experience observing such situations but I believe own experience cannot be considered as facts. I’ve got to be more careful on giving out comments. Thanks for pointing this one out.

”The Holy Prophet Muhammad, Rasulullah Sallalahu Alaihi Wassallam said that whoever takes the stand of the Kaffirs against Islam, is the same as them. Anwar's stand similar to Karpal Singh here warrants an equal opposition from us Muslims!”

So be it. We have different understanding on matters and I appreciate that.

Thanks and Salam.

PS. Is it okay if I drop by sometimes and ask questions? I’ll try the best in asking.

Fakhri said...

”You need to go read up about what I think of the sort of 'Islamic State' that Mahathir spoke of and do your own research and study about it. I can't really be expected to keep explaining my stand over and over again just because someone like you sir failed to look it up in the first place?”

I must agree with your suggestion. I will try to find time to keep doing the research. I cannot just go around reading blogs and directly asking question so I can short cut the learning curve. Now that I am running own businesses, I do find time reading blogs and they are very interesting and yours are bookmarked. Am so looking forward to keep reading.

MAHAGURU58 said...

Assalamualaikum dear Fakhri.

Thanks for handling yourself well in an amicable manner befitting your being a fellow Muslim voicing out your opinions and views based upon your intellect and general grasp of all that is taking place around us.

Congratulations. Let it be that we do differ on many points and observations about the subject matter.

That's part and parcel of life and freedom to opinionate.

Islam encourages us to speak our minds but to do so in a manner befitting our status as Abdillah's.

Servants of Allah. Where we will be judged according to the manner and way we address and discuss matters with one another.

By your manner of explaining your stand and views, you have proven to be a fair and reasonable commentator. Well done.

You are most welcome to share your views and expressions here in the manner you have shown so far.

Fee Amanillah ya akhi.

Wassalamualaikum.