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Thursday, November 11, 2010

Malaysian Armed Forces to see more Non Malays join it soon?

From the reaction and responses arising from the likes of MCA President Chua Soi Lek, MCA Deputy President Liow Tiong Lai, MIC, Gerakan and DAP members who cry foul and protest against the insinuation that they are any less patriotic than the Malays in joining the Malaysian Armed Forces to defend our beloved Malaysia, then maybe we might from now on see a surge in Non Malays  among the Malaysian Armed Forces?


I applaud this rising show of patriotism being shown by the rightful citizens of this country especially from the Non Malays to rise to the occasion and state their willingness to fight for or die for this nation!


Should we congratulate Dato Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, our Malaysian Defense Minister for his clever usage of 'reverse psychology' to get more Malaysians especially from amongst the Chinese, Indians and other ethnicities to now come forward and sign up to be amongst our nation's finest in defending our motherland if and when it is in danger from our enemies?


Its so heartening to see Chua Soi Lek loudly proclaim that the MCA are as patriotic as any other Malaysians and not be seen in trying to outdo the DAP as far as whacking the Federal Government's ministers for whatever the hell damn kind of issues that Kit Siang & Co never fail to scrutinize and zoom in looking for faults of the ruling government!


Come to think of it, that's what the Opposition seem to be best at?


Finding faults of the government 24/7. 


You've got to hand it to them.


They are masters at it.


Just that.


No bloody accomplishments at anything else.


I have yet to hear of any of the constituents of Kit Siang, Karpal Singh, etc sing praises of their MPs for jobs well done at the parliamentary constituency levels?


I mean, really work towards improving the quality of life for their respective constituencies ~ improving the infrastructure, create better living environments, create job opportunities, etc.


All we hear is these constant and endless stream of complaining that this is wrong and that is not right!


Is that all that these Opposition MPs are good for?


Cry foul and endlessly complain, complain, complain and forever just bloody complain???


What the hell???


Hello!!! There are many things that you can all do for your constituents than just making so much noise daily about whatever it is you are all not happy about?


If you state that Ahmad Zahid Hamidi is damn wrong, then please go and get your people to sign up in droves at the next army intake and prove him wrong!!!


Make him eat his words for stating the facts!


Yes! He just stated the very obvious, didn't he?


Most Malaysians are so famous for not wanting to hear the truth!


We prefer to think everything is nice and easy until disaster comes a calling!


Then we'll hear all the master complainers do their stuff like nobody's business.


Chua Soi Lek & Co seem hellbent on beating Kit Siang & Co in whacking the Malaysian Government, that they might just join forces to make it easier to screw our Ministers like Ahmad Zahid Hamidi for stating the obvious?


Why beat around the bush, eh?


After all, from the looks of it, Kit Siang and Karpal might just take some time off from constantly having to dig and goad the Malaysian Ministers like Ahmad Zahid Hamidi 24/7?


They have Chua Soi Lek, his deputy Liow Teong Lai, MIC's T.Mohan and likes to do their job now.


Malaysian Armed Forces better start preparing for the new intake as our Non Malays have now loudly announced that they are as patriotic as anybody else here in wanting to defend our beloved nation!


I seriously look forward to that!


Bloody clever of Zahid Hamidi in getting more Non Malays to join the Malaysian Armed Forces, eh?


Those who may want to learn more about this matter, please read what blogger Jailani Harun, a seasoned journalist has to share?


He calls a spade just that!

14 comments:

Mohd Naser said...

Kah..kah.. kah. Non malays wants to join the arm forces.. For me, 90% of them don't have the guts to do so. Since childhood, they are not being motivated to joined the arm forces by their parents. The other things is that for them we are not at war. If we are, the army with all the majorities are malays will defend this country.... The non Malays just don't care...

Azman said...

Salam Tuan,

While I also applaud for non-Malays to join our country's armed forces by the drove, I am a bit skeptical about their willingness; the Malaysian Chinese especially.

I believe their culture gives little encouragement or motivation for them to join the armed forces, if not look down on the profession of soldiering in some way.

Quoting the memoirs of Singapore's Mentor Minister Lee Kuan Yew, "Every Chinese parent knew the saying hao han bu dang bing, hao tie bu da ding (a good lad does not become a soldier, good steel does not become nails)", the minds of the Chinese need to be re-oriented first before we can expect them to join the armed forces.

Literally, the saying itself looks down on the soldiering profession. I do not know how far/deep Malaysian Chinese embrace that saying, but judging from the origin, proximity & similarity of Singapore & Malaysian Chinese, that saying does bear some resemblance of practice.

I am not accusing the Chinese of not being patriotic, but the existing low ratio certainly carries some correlation with what the saying is designated to mean so.

At the same time, I also agree with some of the opposition leaders in saying that the Government didn't do enough "image branding" on our Armed Forces to attract the non-Malays. Singapore faced this problem approx 40 years ago but with their well planned programs, they managed to turn around the Chinese traditional dislike for soldiering within 10-year span.

I stand corrected.

Thank you.

Kama At-Tarawis said...

If I remember correctly, the Armed Forces/Police Force have been asking for non-Malay Malaysians to join their ranks for yonks. No takers. Defending this country remains the domain of Melayus, as it were. Soldiering doesn't rate very high among non-Malay Malaysians and that's a fact. There's no money to be made in this profession. It's not a business undertaking. Bab defend this country, leave it to the Melayus.. that has been the general attitude since Independence. Tapi bila kata tak patriotic, marah berapi..

MAHAGURU58 said...

Thank you all for stating the truth with regard to the matter here.

I have long been observing this climate of bashing the Malays especially the UMNO Ministers like Zahid Hamidi by those from the MCA, MIC and GERAKAN so alike what the DAP has been doing for ages?

All these double faced great pretenders are just remora's feeding off the BN and getting fat on the sly while being brothers in arms to the DAP in actuality.

Guess that politics for these kind of treacherous ones means brandishing the proverbial dagger ready to stab their UMNO BN colleagues in the back at the slightest chance they can get while hugging the UMNO Malays at the same time?

Double headed snakes or Judas Iscariot's on the sly?

zulkifli said...

The truth hurts. Condemning Zahid will not change the truth one bit.
I fear the day when even the Malays cease to want to serve in the armed forces. maybe when the day comes, we may have to employ Nepalese to be our soldiers.

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

i read and reread your blog and still unable to accept your explanation (which of course you deserve your view). Which in my opinion is really ONE-SIDED. And surely it is not reverse psychology as you so assumed that is. First things first, I am Offended.

Second, "Finding Faults on Govt 24/7" - It is unbelievable that His Majesty Opposition is considered to be unpatriotic. What about govt members who corrupt and spend unnecessary of the rakyat's money, are they more patriotic? Surely not. It takes an idiot to actually agree with you.

Thirdly, issues of "improving the infrastructure, creating better living environment, job etc...". Hello!!? Isn't that the powers of the executive at the federal level by creating a more even playing field to compete the best instead of falling way behind our neighbours such as Indonesia, Vietnam and Philippines? Or you mean we should be like Myanmar. And I thought those are the works of the local council. What about the role of Parliamentarian at the federal level as they are to debate policies and law not looking at the 'longkang' or public amenities...

And by the way, before that, I think the opposition members are damn more patriotic for defending the good constitution to see for a better Malaysia. And trust me, we are willing to fight till the end of the last drop of blood to defend this constitution and this country.

Remember the rukunegara
Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan
Kesetiaan kepada RAJA dan NEGARA
Keluhuran Perlembagaan
Kedaulatan Undang-undang
Kesopanan dan kesusilaan.

So it is unwise, for Zahid being a minister or anybody to question the loyalty and the patriotic of another

MAHAGURU58 said...

Hi Damian Baba Yeo.

I am not surprised at all to read your views with regard to this 'Non Malays less patriotic' thingy. I know that you being a DAP Melaka member will of course take offense to any views or blog articles contrary to what you guys n gals of the DAP eschew?

What is it that you are offended about?

Is the fact that there are just so few Chinese in the Malaysian Armed Forces so unpleasant for you to stomach and accept?

Why, only yesterday, at the Restoran Al Irsyat here in Dataran Dwitasik, Bandar Sri Permaisuri off Bandar Tun Razak, Cheras, KL, I asked two Malaysian Chinese men whether it is true that most Chinese families do not like their sons or daughters join the Malaysian Army?

They declined to be on video but agreed to speak about it. So I just asked them off hand. They agreed that most Chinese families don't want their offsprings to be in the Army for it is a dangerous occupation. They said that they prefer to work in the private sector where they are free to earn their keep the safe way!

So, there goes your argument that you are prepared to defend this country to the last drop of your blood!

By the way, just for the record, I am not speaking on behalf of the Malaysian Government or the Defense Minister himself. I am just stating what I as a citizen of this nation see being the reality here in Malaysia.

If you are really sincere in stating your readiness to fight for and defend Malaysia, then I would like to see you back up your statement here and do something to prove Dato Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi wrong!

Will you be able to get more Malaysian Chinese to join our Army?

Really, go there and sign up the next time our Royal Malaysian Armed Forces have a recruitment drive!

Don't just say it. Prove it!

MAHAGURU58 said...

Now for my stating that the Malaysian Opposition being constantly criticising the Federal Government, 24/7, can you please prove that the DAP has been supportive of the BN Government in any way?

Prove it to us first bro, before getting all worked up here. :)

Lim Kit Siang & Co are infamous for constantly being a pain in the BN Federal Government's proverbial ass since the fella set foot in Parliament.

I have yet to learn about the DAP being supportive of the BN Federal Government to date. Maybe you can help refresh my memory of any occasions proving otherwise? Only idiots will remain recalcitrantly obstinate in declaring to the contrary, won't they?

The DAP are also on record in being against the Royals for the way things took place in Perak where they lost their control of the Perak State Government under the PAS proxy Menteri Besar who danced to their tune. So much for your claiming that the DAP are His Majesty's Opposition?

Hell, the Opposition under the DAP's maneuvering successfully got the PAS chaps to block His Royal Highness's entourage by lying across the road holding Palestinian flags in denying Raja Nazrin clearance to go through!

Very odd and deviated way of showing your respect to the Perak Royalty, won't you agree?

So please, don't come here and pontificate that those of you in the DAP are very much loyal subjects of our Royals. Action speaks louder than mere words, bro.

Lastly, as for your stating that the Federal Government has overriding powers to see to it that they get to create the best playing field for better infrastructures, job and business opportunities throughout the nation, you are conveniently overlooking the fact that state governments call the shots within their respective borders for all those living in their states and not the BN Federal Government per se.

What have the Opposition run states achieved for their states so far? Nothing much except create a ruckus everytime their State Assemblies are in session. Quite a circus, I must say.

I very much welcome your comment here and hope to see you speak with a more rational and calm demeanor stating the facts and not fiction that you seem to be quite proficient here with?

I challenge you and the DAP to have more Non Malays sign up in our Royal Malaysian Armed Forces and prove Zahid Hamidi wrong!

I will support your statement then.

Only then.

Good luck with your political career.

Selamat berjuang!

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

Hi to you.

I for one, am offended for being called “unpatriotic”. Period. Are you measuring patriotism with just joining the armed forces? As far as Zahid’s remark is concern as to the reason why there are a few non-Malays in the armed force because ‘they (Chinese and Indian)’ are unpatriotic would seem to open old wounds. In fact he should be honest and say (a) pay is not that good or (b) chances of ‘naik pangkat’ is difficult for non-Malays or (c) the private sector is better. Let us be honest to ourselves.

But I am glad that the government is opening up (only recently) government position as Assistant Public Prosecutors and Deputy Public Prosecutors (as far as I know), and believe you me, that many non-Malays applied for such position. MACC recently had that, and again there many applied, and many rejected.

So Mahaguru, the issue at hand is simple. Are Non-Malays Unpatriotic? And Zahid is so wrong to come into that conclusion. Is easy and simple as that.
So whether I am a DAP member or not, CANNOT in our wildest dream agree with Zahid’s view. It has nothing to do with the political party’s ideology, which I subscribed to.

Now if you still cannot agree with that, then how do you measure patriotism? Is it just being a member of the armed forces? Or the public service? Or what about Nicol David (Datuk) who fought in the Squash courts. Or what about Lee Chong Wei (Datuk) who battled in the Badminton Courts. Or M. Magendren and N. Mohandas in 1997 climbed and conquered the Everest. Or what about Jimmy Choo who makes Malaysia proud for his shoes. Or the late Datuk Sim Mow Yi who single handedly transformed SRJK Cina into what they are now. Or the late Lim Goh Tong who made Malaysian proud for Genting (I am not proud with that anyway). Or the many other Malaysians, man on the street like you and me eating either wan tan mee or mee goreng or putu mayam. Or voters of Pakatan or Barisan. Are they all not patriotic?

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

part 2 (reply on first comment)

So, yes, like my late father (former royal golf club champion in Tennis-At that time it is like your Wimbledon in Malaysia) and my grand father (who owns a legal firm in the 50s though not a lawyer employed a Mat Salleh), and great grand father (businessman in the late 19 century) (I am the 7th generation Malaysian-but not known as a prince of the land) prepared to defend this country AND THE Constitution (you forgot this) to the last drop of my blood! And that is why I ran in the last election as a candidate in a Malay majority area and almost won. I have proved that I am willing to fight to defend the constitution and the rukunegara

And for the record, I have no political career. I was just a former candidate (DAP) who refused to allow a BN candidate (now ADUN) a walk in the park. So my point again is “Is patriotism measured by being in the Armed Forces?”

It’s now 12.48am. I shall reply your second comment the next day. That requires more brains to work on it

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

Part 3 (Reply to your second comment)


As far as I am concern, the DAP has always indulged in constructive criticism for the good of Malaysia in general and its people in particular. When I say its people meaning everybody including the indigenous people or those that falls in the category of lain-lain.

The problem about the BN government is that they chose not to listen to the opposition. But instead flexing their muscles to shut their mouth with their overwhelming majority (I am talking about the 80s and 90s) and threats of security breaches (1986-1988 and 1992, 1997). I am sure you know this better than I.

There are many accusations by UMNO specifically through their leaders and machinery (Utusan) that DAP being anti-Malay, anti-Islam or anti-royal, which we are not.

Being anti-Malay – We have never question the rights or special position of the Malays/Bumiputra. Prove to us that any of our leaders actually made such statements? And when I say prove, not from your UMNO agencies and/or Utusan. But from our books, publications, press statements, et al.

Of course, you may say that we are challenging Art 153. Now who says that? Perkasa, UMNO? Nay we never question that but we seek for fairer and equal distribution for the poor regardless of race.

Art 153 of the Federal Constitution states, “It shall be the responsibility of the Yang di Pertuan Agong to safeguard the special position of the Malays and natives of any states of Sabah and Sarawak and the legitimate interests of other communities in accordance with the provisions of this article.” (Please read Art 153 Federal Constitution in total)

Umno as always always cites Article 153 of the Constitution on the special position of the Malays as justification for their racist Malays-only approach. But they invariably fail to mention the legitimate interests of other communities which must also be protected.

Being anti-Islam – Again prove to us. Did we at any point of time say that we are against Islam? I dare said, WE NEVER AT ONCE DECLARED THAT. We only say that Malaysia is a secular state which Islam is the religion of the Federation and that but other religions may be practised in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation (Art 3) (Che Omar Che Soh v PP (1988) 2 MLJ 55 – Supreme Court decision – not overruled). So constitutionally that is the stand of DAP. That is why I say I will defend the constitution and the country till the last drop of my blood. Unless of course the constitution is amended to say that Malaysia is an Islamic state. Then of course constitutionally I will have to do the same because I am bound by the constitution.

Again we have never challenge Islam but we just want some rights to expressed freedom of worship to our God (1 Rukun – Rukunegara & Art 11 Federal Constitution)

Now is that simple to understand?

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

Part 4 (Reply to 2nd Comment)

Sometimes I wished that the blogospheres allowed a single comment rather than making into parts.

Being anti-royals – Are we? You said, that the DAP are also on record in being against the Royals for the way things took place in Perak where they lost their control of the Perak State Government under the PAS proxy Menteri Besar who danced to their tune.

Again, if I may asked (a) what do the meaning constitutional monarchy actually means? (b) do the monarch actually have the power to dismiss the MB?

Now I am not an expert nor a judge but just a man reading and practicing law. If we look at the literal
translation of the state constitution of Perak, Article 16(7) of it says that the mentri besar does not hold office at the pleasure of His Royal Highness. And once a mentri besar is appointed, he is only answerable to the state legislative assembly. He can only be dismissed through a vote of no-confidence of the Assembly.

What BN should have done is to convene an assembly and seek for a vote of no-confidence or surrender to the rakyat and seek for a mandate.

Now is that so wrong, when the PR state government in defending the then state government following the interpretation of the constitution (of course all these has become irrelevant now as the Federal Court has decided differently (or I say in tuning at the wimps of the BN federal government). In fact I dare said that the correct approach is the decision of the Justice Abdul Rahim sitting in the KL High Court in the plain reading of the interpretation of the constitution.

Then what about the quick maneuvering in the Court of Appeal? And the slow decision of the Federal Court? Are we so blind as a bat? It simply doesn’t made a lot of sense even procedure is concerned.

What a blatant disregard of the constitution and the law. And I must remind you that only God is above the law and not even the monarch.

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

Part 5 (To reply your second comment)

If that being the case of disrespectful of the royals, than come 1992 constitutional crisis or I may put the face off between the Monarch and the Executive, where a large chunk of their powers were taken and the introducing of a new Article in the constitution amending Articles 32, 38, 42, 63, 72 and 181 i.e. Part XV of the Constitution.

Now for the record, the opposition at that time i.e. DAP, PAS and Semangat 46 did not vote but abstained.

I now ‘petik’ from Kit Siang’s article :

DAP is gravely concerned at the escalation of confrontation between the Government and the Rulers on the 1993 Constitution Amendment Bill.
This is precisely the reason why the DAP MPs had registered an abstention vote during the voting of the 1993 Constitution Amendment Bill in the Dewan Rakyat on Tuesday night.

The DAP MPs abstained in the 1993 Constitution Amendment Bill not because the DAP opposed the principles and proposals for the removal of the Rulers’ immunities, but to urge the Government to exhaust all avenues first to introduce such amendments without violating the Constitution.

The DAP MPs had a heavy historic task during the 1993 Constitution Amendment Bill debate.

Firstly, to unequivocally express the support of the DAP to the three principles that no Ruler is above the law and is at liberty to commit criminal or civil wrongdoing; that any individual aggrieved by any royal wrongdoing should be able to seek redress and secure justice; and that the government is duty-bound to uphold the rule of law and give protection to life and property of every individual in the country.

Secondly, to advise respect for the Constitutional process and provisions when proposing amendments to the Constitution.

While the majority of people support the constitutional amendments to remove the Rulers’ immunities, they also overwhelmingly want the issue to be resolved through consultation rather than confrontation

If a precedent could be introduced whereby clear-cut Constitutional processes could be disregarded, this could lead to very serious consequences in future ...

The DAP’s vote of abstention is a serious and responsible decision, for while the majority of people support the constitutional amendments to remove the Rulers’ immunities, they also overwhelmingly want the issue to be resolved through discussion and consultation rather than confrontation.

The DAP does not propose to play party politics on an important issue like the 1993 Constitution Amendment Bill, for every important fundamental issues concerning democracy, human rights and constitutional propriety are involved."

Is is simple as that...

Damian 'Baba' Yeo (楊 勝 利) said...

Part 6 (reply to your second comment)

I must say that there is a division of duties and roles between federal and state (per part VI constitution again). But at the same time, you and I know that there are no allocations of sort for Opposition member of parliament. Meanwhile for such infrastructure such as longkang, or flood mitigation etc, it is definitely the duties of the state through its local councils. Or else why do we need local council for? Let MPs do their job in proposing, creating, deliberating policies and laws in the august house.

Well creating ruckus? When? Oh yes, in Perak. But what was the underlining issue in creating such ruckus? I say, in defending the state constitution (please note that was before the decision of the Federal Court). Mine you too that there was a total disregard of the legal Speaker at that time (V. Selvakumar). And why is it that at that time there were two Houses in session? Remember that Selvakumar was still the actual and legal speaker of the House. Of course he got thrown out forcefully by Special Branch members who had aligned to the BN federal government.

What about Penang then? Yes you have UMNO opposition members became thugs over night.

Friend, maybe let us look at the fundamentals of the system. You as a Malay would see from the Malay perspective and I, a non-Malay would look through my perspective. If we have better pay in the armed forces and a fairer distribution (not questioning Art 153) meaning better promotions and privileges, I am sure that more non-Malays will join the armed forces..

We have to consider the basic amenities in a challenging economy. What about the police force then? Ask around the basic pay of a constable? Mind you, we will be shocked and guess what, they defended this nation till their last drop of blood. They must be applauded for their sacrifices.

It has been done in position for APPs and DPPs and MACC, why not the armed forces?

Having said all these, NAY and NEVER should a minister questioned our loyalty and patriotism of Malaysia.